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and sean hannity and the right wing radio folks are saying let's hear what marco rubio has to say, so you do have a chance to get it done. >> well, margaret, when you talk about the house republicans with the tea party caucus, they control what speaker boehner is going to do and you had representative lamar smith coming out calling it amnesty. i think they've got a long way go in the house. >> i wouldn't have let the right wing nuts define the party. they may say, you will get -- >> well, that is interesting. >> and paul ryan is trying to pass a bill, and paul ryan voted not to go over the fiscal cliff, and paul ryan is probably running for president, and he sees the writing on the wall, and that is why he wants a deal on immigration reform. >> well, gloria borger, cornell belcher and margaret hoover, thank you. >>> just ahead, describing really new details about the deadly fight club fire in brazil. more than 200 people died. the club was filled twice the capacity. imagine being stuck inside. police have made arrests. eyewitnesss are describing the building as it went up in flames. >
and sean hannity and the right wing radio folks are saying let's hear what marco rubio has to say, so you do have a chance to get it done. >> well, margaret, when you talk about the house republicans with the tea party caucus, they control what speaker boehner is going to do and you had representative lamar smith coming out calling it amnesty. i think they've got a long way go in the house. >> i wouldn't have let the right wing nuts define the party. they may say, you will get --...
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you have marco rubio on the same page as chuck schumer. yes, we told you pigs are in the air, and senator schumer has high hopes for this proposal. >> we believe this will be the year congress finally gets it done. the politics on this issue have been turned upside down. for the first time ever, there's more political risk in opposing immigration reform than in supporting it. >> but like everything else in washington, not everyone is on board. take republican senator mike lee. he quickly issued this statement in opposition to the gang's plan. here's what he said. reforms to our complexy and dysfunctional immigration system should not in any way favor those who came here illegally over the millions of applicants who seek to come here lawfully. the problem is without reform, there are 11 million people who are undocumented who are living in this country right now, and you can't just support them all. that's why everyone has hit a big wall until the pigs started flying today. miguel marquez spoke to some young people today, and here are their
you have marco rubio on the same page as chuck schumer. yes, we told you pigs are in the air, and senator schumer has high hopes for this proposal. >> we believe this will be the year congress finally gets it done. the politics on this issue have been turned upside down. for the first time ever, there's more political risk in opposing immigration reform than in supporting it. >> but like everything else in washington, not everyone is on board. take republican senator mike lee. he...
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for example, marco rubio says that he does not want attorney crease the number of green cards for what would be 11 million new people here who would be eligible for those and democrats say that they do want to do that. those are some examples of pretty deep differences but by and large this is the most comprehensive bipartisan agreement that we've seen in years and years. >> all right. dana bash reporting live from washington. and president obama will unveil his own plan for immigration in las vegas on tuesday. >>> three months after super storm sandy tore through the northeast, devastating lives and communities, survivors will be watching to see if lawmakers send more help their way today. the senate set to vote on a $50 billion aid package just hours from now. for many families that help can't come fast enough. tens of thousands still displaced without adequate heat during one of the coldest months of the year. >>> and now the latest developments in that horrifying and deadly night club fire in brazil. an hour ago we learned police have arrested one of the club's owners and two membe
for example, marco rubio says that he does not want attorney crease the number of green cards for what would be 11 million new people here who would be eligible for those and democrats say that they do want to do that. those are some examples of pretty deep differences but by and large this is the most comprehensive bipartisan agreement that we've seen in years and years. >> all right. dana bash reporting live from washington. and president obama will unveil his own plan for immigration...
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marco rubio has been working with democrats, john mccain, lindsey graham. they are all republicans. why do you disagree with them that there should be a pathway to citizenship, eventually down the road after overcoming many hurdles for these 11 million or so illegal immigrants? >> well, to put it in simple terms, wolf, at your home you want to replace the carpet while there's still a hole in the roof. making a proposal like this will only make the problem worse. this is an invitation for millions to come to the united states illegally to take advantage of the benefits that being an american citizen has. we need to put the first things first and that's make sure our borders are secure, make sure we can track people when their visas expire, make sure we have a mandatory e-verify program in place so illegal immigrants cannot take jobs away from people. >> marco rubio, john mccain, lindsey graham, other republicans working with the democrats, they support getting much tougher on border security, as you do. why are they wrong in trying to work some kind of comprehensive immigration refor
marco rubio has been working with democrats, john mccain, lindsey graham. they are all republicans. why do you disagree with them that there should be a pathway to citizenship, eventually down the road after overcoming many hurdles for these 11 million or so illegal immigrants? >> well, to put it in simple terms, wolf, at your home you want to replace the carpet while there's still a hole in the roof. making a proposal like this will only make the problem worse. this is an invitation for...
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marco rubio said he was not going to support a path to citizenship. they said they were not going to support the program. we have a labor market and we have job displacement and see a lot of americans who were struggling. how is this by giving amnesty and setting off a tidal wave and going to help the average american get a job and better wages and improved working conditions. how will it help the fiscal situation? the bill is a skeletal draft. these guys go into it holding arm and arm like they are going in the tunnel of love. it's like they have been in a lion's den. when you get down to the details, what you see is all the enforcement provisions and things we have on the books anyway. if the president would enforce the law, it's a big bill with a prospect of enforcement which with this administration's track record is illosery. >> at this point it is a bipartisan push. a strong republican said part of the reason behind the push has to do with elections and elections matter. listen to this. >> elections. elections. the republican party is losing the
marco rubio said he was not going to support a path to citizenship. they said they were not going to support the program. we have a labor market and we have job displacement and see a lot of americans who were struggling. how is this by giving amnesty and setting off a tidal wave and going to help the average american get a job and better wages and improved working conditions. how will it help the fiscal situation? the bill is a skeletal draft. these guys go into it holding arm and arm like...
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right wing talk radio folks are saying let's hear what marco rubio says. let's give him the benefit of the doubt. >> margaret, do you think sort of house republicans, where the tea party caucus, as small as it may be, they really control what speaker boehner was doing, and you have lamar smith coming out, calling it amnesty. >> i wouldn't let the wing nuts define the policy. you have paul ryan with decent legislation. you're going to get mainstream republicans. >> paul ryan is trying to write a bill. paul ryan voted, you know, not to go over the fiscal cliff. paul ryan is probably running for president, and he sees the writing on the wall. that's why he wants to get a deal on immigration reform. >> gloria, appreciate it, cornell, margaret, thanks very much. >>> just ahead, describing disturbing new details about the deadly nightclub fire in brazil. more than 200 people died. club was filled to twice its legal capacity. imagine being stuck in a club like this when 2,000 people are still inside. police have made arrests. eye witnesses describe the panic. >>>
right wing talk radio folks are saying let's hear what marco rubio says. let's give him the benefit of the doubt. >> margaret, do you think sort of house republicans, where the tea party caucus, as small as it may be, they really control what speaker boehner was doing, and you have lamar smith coming out, calling it amnesty. >> i wouldn't let the wing nuts define the policy. you have paul ryan with decent legislation. you're going to get mainstream republicans. >> paul ryan is...
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he is the most thoughtful on the issue of immigration. >> marco rubio. if the president pushes to lay out his vision, you think there can be a deal? >> i think we have to wait and see what the vision is. >> we know his vision. >> i don't. my experience of president obama is whatever our position is, he would like to push us beyond what is acceptable. i will be curious to see -- for example if he wants immediate amnesty, the answer is no. if he wants amnesty without english as a language, the answer is no. there a number of steps in between and i want to wait and see. i would like to see the president's plan. he promised in 2008. i would like to see the president's plan. >> do you think republicans need to moderate the position on some other social issues, for example, gay marriage? >> we have to confront the reality with nine states that have legalized something which i don't personally believe is marriage. i think it's a legal contract. i think as a matter of religious belief, it's not marriage. most americans say. >> various christian denominations do.
he is the most thoughtful on the issue of immigration. >> marco rubio. if the president pushes to lay out his vision, you think there can be a deal? >> i think we have to wait and see what the vision is. >> we know his vision. >> i don't. my experience of president obama is whatever our position is, he would like to push us beyond what is acceptable. i will be curious to see -- for example if he wants immediate amnesty, the answer is no. if he wants amnesty without...
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he do something which may be against his nature and try to reach out to republicans, work with maybe marco rubio on immigration, and try to have a real legacy. >> i think your former boss saying, i have political capital to spend and i'm going to spend it. do you see the same for president obama? >> i do. and the interesting thing is, mandates are that which you create as the president. you can create more and do more if you do well. if the economy comes back and you can convince people to come with you. but there's a major issue, iran. iran is an issue the president is going to have to wrestle with in a serious way. >>> we have breaking news now, can you almost hear the celebrating in baltimore. because just moments ago, the ravens beat the patriots and are heading to the super bowl. the 49ers inched out theoppon t theopponents for the trip to the super bowl. jim harbaugh played for a string of nfl teams. he followed in the foot i steps of his father. it's the first time in history this has happened, so the brother on brother matchup is clear to be a heavy story line in a leadup to the ga
he do something which may be against his nature and try to reach out to republicans, work with maybe marco rubio on immigration, and try to have a real legacy. >> i think your former boss saying, i have political capital to spend and i'm going to spend it. do you see the same for president obama? >> i do. and the interesting thing is, mandates are that which you create as the president. you can create more and do more if you do well. if the economy comes back and you can convince...
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senator marco rubio insisted that the undocumented go to the back of the line. and there will be a path to citizenship here, which many republicans in the past and some democrats too, say no matter what you call it, this is amnesty. >> we want to make certain it is not amnesty. i have to tell you this is some of the particulars and the legislative language that people want to see. one of the lessons we have learned from decades past, decades, they have tried to address this issue, over the decades, it doesn't matter if it was clinton, reagan, what we've learned, if you grant amnesty, what do you get? more amnesty. morri mo more llegal entry. let's make certain this will be fair, make certain we won't do something that will put more pressure on the obama care system and on the medicaid system that we have. that's an issue that's been raised by the health care community. >> we take you back to the original sticking point. the president's proposals and what we're hearing from the bipartisan group in the senate. big difference, phrasing from senator mccain, prerequi
senator marco rubio insisted that the undocumented go to the back of the line. and there will be a path to citizenship here, which many republicans in the past and some democrats too, say no matter what you call it, this is amnesty. >> we want to make certain it is not amnesty. i have to tell you this is some of the particulars and the legislative language that people want to see. one of the lessons we have learned from decades past, decades, they have tried to address this issue, over...
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there are certain things that republican senator marco rubio wants in this, that they put in this measure. and so, you know, i think there would be a little bit of difference from what the white house would want versus this plan. having said that, i think that people who really want to get immigration reform done, and this is the moment, because by a 3-1 margin republicans lost hispanic voters in the last election, so people who want to get something done are saying to the white house, you know, step aside, let this get some velocity on its own, and then eventually you can get involved. but don't brand it as president obama's proposal. >> let's get reaction before the event comes out, a preview of the debate about to come. anna navarro is a republican strategist. dan stein is the president of fair, the federation for american immigration reform. dan, i'll start with you. this has been an issue which conservative republicans said no, anything that grants legal status or citizenship to someone who crossed into the country illegally is amnesty. is it a different climate now and can you suppo
there are certain things that republican senator marco rubio wants in this, that they put in this measure. and so, you know, i think there would be a little bit of difference from what the white house would want versus this plan. having said that, i think that people who really want to get immigration reform done, and this is the moment, because by a 3-1 margin republicans lost hispanic voters in the last election, so people who want to get something done are saying to the white house, you...